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New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1  
« on: Apr 26th, 2018, 5:39pm »
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Hello,
The new versions of Harmony Assistant and Melody Assistant are available on this site, in the Download section.
 
You can read the complete list of new features and fixes of this version by clicking here.
 
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1  
« Reply #1 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 9:42am »
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Merci
 
Une question à propos de :
"3.Pour palier à la limitation d'un seul coulé ayant comme point de départ ou d'arrivée une note donnée, on peut ajouter un ornement "coulé" purement graphique en nombre illimité sur une note, un silence ou une clé"
 
Puisque c'est un effet (ornement) il est lié à une  seule note, ou il y a une technique pour définir la note d'arrivée ?
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Re: Coulés illimiteé / Multiple slurs   Multi-slur.png
« Reply #2 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 3:41pm »
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New features
 
3.    To override the limit to only one slur starting or ending on each note, an unlimited number of "slur" ornaments can be added to any note, rest or clef

 
I have also been trying to understand what has changed.
    
The multiple slurs below must not be linked to a common note.
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1   2018-04-27_163256.jpg
« Reply #3 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 4:35pm »
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Je ne suis pas certain d'avoir compris votre remarque, on peut faire ceci par exemple, uniquement avec cette nouvelle fonctionnalité.
Il faut juste un peu de temps.
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1  
« Reply #4 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 5:38pm »
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.. and I am not certain how you have done this.
 
If I add a second slur to the first blue note, the original (blue) slur disappears.  
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1  
« Reply #5 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 6:33pm »
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on Apr 27th, 2018, 5:38pm, Tony Deff wrote:
.. and I am not certain how you have done this.
If I add a second slur to the first blue note, the original (blue) slur disappears.  
The trick is this :
1- You place a slur on the note (don't try to add a second one, as it would make the existing slur disappear)
2- You edit the note and add a "slur" effect (it's the last one of the grid). Then you can add as many "slur" effects as you like.
3- Fine tune the placement of each slur with the mouse.
In the past (i.e. before version 9.8.1) you had to select another note to start a slur and drag it so as to make it look like a second slur attached to the note.
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1  
« Reply #6 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 8:50pm »
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How do you get this secret information ; do you have an "insider" in the Guillion laboratories?
 
By the way, if you have not downloaded this version already, hold-off doing so.  
A minor update is due very shortly (information from my insider)  
 
Si vous n'avez pas déjà téléchargé cette version, retenir de le faire.  
Une mise à jour mineure est due très prochainement (les informations de mon insider)  
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1   MyriadChangeBox.jpg
« Reply #7 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 8:55pm »
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When using the "Change duration box" only these 2 options work:
"Divide durations by..." (a value, eg. 2)
"Multiply durations by..." (a value, eg. 2)
 
The box of setting a specific note value is only partly OK.
The initial (random) value works, but when changing to another value the initial one is the result of the change! In the ex. it is 16th note.
 
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1  
« Reply #8 on: Apr 27th, 2018, 10:48pm »
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on Apr 27th, 2018, 8:50pm, Tony Deff wrote:
How do you get this secret information ; do you have an "insider" in the Guillion laboratories?
Well, as they're highly interested in wildlife, I've sent a mole to their garden.
On top of that, I'm addicted to their blog where I can follow all the latest developments.  
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1   Slur_multiple.png
« Reply #9 on: Apr 30th, 2018, 11:28am »
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on Apr 27th, 2018, 4:35pm, Geo wrote:
Je ne suis pas certain d'avoir compris votre remarque, on peut faire ceci par exemple, uniquement avec cette nouvelle fonctionnalité.
Il faut juste un peu de temps.

Yo aplaudiría una característica así, si se pudiera marcar la nota de partida y la nota de destino. Hice las pruebas y realmente, termino antes con el truco de la versión anterior.
En realidad, eso, nunca he tenido la necesidad de hacerlo. Hay cuestiones mas importantes en el aire....
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1   Colourful.png
« Reply #10 on: Apr 30th, 2018, 12:32pm »
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on Apr 27th, 2018, 8:55pm, olemalm wrote:
When using the "Change duration box" only these 2 options work:
"Divide durations by..." (a value, eg. 2)
"Multiply durations by..." (a value, eg. 2).

The latest version (981c) seems to work O.K. in these circumstances:
 
1) Pre-select the note duration
2) Use keyboard short-cuts
 
The original up-down arrows do not seems to work (but these were a pain to work with anyway).
 
The help notes seems a little off-colour  
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1   notedur1.jpg
« Reply #11 on: Apr 30th, 2018, 5:25pm »
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Tony Deff wrote:
The latest version (981c) seems to work O.K. in these circumstances:  
1) Pre-select the note duration  
2) Use keyboard short-cuts ...

 
I have vers. 981c - and cannot find out to use the "Note Duration" box as I could and often used earlier Never had problems with the 2 arrows!
 
I want to change the marked note (1/4) to 1/8-with normal increase as selected in the box ... does not work.  
 
How to do that now?
What does Tony mean by "keyboard short-cuts" in this case?
 
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Re: New version: Harmony Assistant 9.8.1 / Melody Assistant 7.8.1   Default_kbd.png
« Reply #12 on: May 1st, 2018, 10:48am »
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on Apr 30th, 2018, 5:25pm, olemalm wrote:
What does Tony mean by "keyboard short-cuts" in this case?

Not all possible keyboard short-cuts are visible from the menus; there is also a set of User short-cuts.
 
If you look under Configuration > Edit keyboard shortcuts and scroll down, you will see numbers 1-7 define note durations (as below):
 
By pressing key 1, the next note to be written will be a whole note.
 
If you open the Change Durations window, you should now see that a whole note is shown.  
Clicking OK will now change your high-lighted notes to whole notes.  
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Re: Note Duration short-cuts   My_shortcuts.png
« Reply #13 on: May 1st, 2018, 11:09am »
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These User keyboard short-cuts can be changed to suit your requirements.  
You can have several sets of shortcuts and save/retrieve them with a file name  (filename.kbd)
 
For example, in one set the shortcut key "C" can set pitch C4; in another set it can set pitch C#.
 
Below, I have set the note durations according to English names:
W = Whole note
H = Half note
Q = Quarter note
8 = Eighth note  
 
(This will often involve removing another short-cut already designated to your chosen key.  You cannot use Ctrl or Alt, which are reserved for HA's fixed menu shortcuts. However you can often use Left-Shift and Right-Shift for different functions).
 
Under the heading SELECT in the keyboard shortcuts window, there is an unused entry:Change selected notes' duration
I have set this to t (time)
 
Now, if I need to change a note duration to a dotted quarter-note triplet, I simply type q.3t and click OK in the opened note-duration window.
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Re:Change note duration bug  
« Reply #14 on: May 1st, 2018, 11:22am »
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As stated above, the Up and Down arrows in the Note Duration window do not presently function.
 
Nor do my Increase/Decrease note duration shortcuts shown above, for this purpose. (Not in the default set of shortcuts)
 
They do, however, still change the duration of the next note to be written.
 
This problem is probably a result of bug Fixed #11 in the What's New documentation.  
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