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VRNocturne
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Bar Menu Options Suggestion
« on: May 8th, 2020, 10:41pm » |
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When I want to change the bar options of multiple bars, I can't see how to do it. I try to select all the bars I want change (click and drag over the bar grid to highlight them, right-click a bar number, toggle an option). When I do this, only the bar I right-clicked in changes. This is in contrast to things like the bar width or margins I can change the behavior of multiple/all bars in the score.
So, I propose a couple ideas for consideration in future updates.
a) allow selecting multiple bars and then changing the bar options will apply to all selected bars.
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b) in the score creation screen, where we select the score options, orchestra, etc., have a new button named "Bars" that will display the bar options. Then, we can toggle them as we like and they would apply to all bars in the newly created score.
The benefit of option A would be an easier way to change bar options, especially in larger scores or a large number of bars you want to change in your composition.
The benefit of option B would be the ability to have the score set up on creation and, even better, the ability to save it as part of a custom template to further speed new score creation.
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Tony Deff
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Re: Bar Menu Options Suggestion
« Reply #1 on: May 9th, 2020, 11:59am » |
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On the Board Home window, top-right, is the (rather small) option to switch to the "Atelier Démocratique" (Democratic Workshop) Forum link, which is the proper place for Suggestions. There in no guarantee, however, that these suggestions are easily implementable, or even that the programmers have time to read them.
Here is a suggestion made in 2017, that has not been taken-up: Bar menu: extended
The problem with your suggestion is that most options applicable to right-clicking in a bar header only make sense when applied to a single bar.
www.myriad-online.com/images/workshop/Extended_Bar_Menu_screenshot.png
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ANdre_B
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Re: Bar Menu Options Suggestion
« Reply #2 on: May 10th, 2020, 8:16am » |
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At first I would have said the same, the actions available from the "bar menus" must rarely apply on several (selected) or all measures.
I better understood your wish when looking at your append in the Democratic Workshop. This very option "Don't split notes" can make sense on a selection or all bars.
But particularly when the action is to eliminate these settings. It wouldn't make sense to specify "End of page after this bar" on a selection... but it makes sense to reset that.
Some time ago, I made a script which resets all "End of line/End of Page" on a score... that could be extended, or be a base to set or reset "Don't split notes".
There could be a series of such scripts, eventually accessible from the Score menu (or elsewhere).
I might append here some examples, though not supporting selections, but "limited" to the whole score
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Re: Bar Menu Options Suggestion
« Reply #3 on: May 10th, 2020, 4:08pm » |
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Here an example of a script which resets as well the EOL/EOP tags as the "Split Notes" one
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-- Supprimer tous les taquets EOL/EOP -- suppress end of line/end of page tags on all bars
-- and reset "Don't Split Notes"
myScore = FrontScore() if myScore == nil then Message("No score availabkle") end
for m = 1,myScore.NumberOfBars do -- number of bars in score
bar = myScore.GetGlobalBarSetting(m)
bar.IsEndOfLine = false
bar.IsEndOfPage = false
bar.IsSplitNotes = true
end --for
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Re: Bar Menu Options Suggestion
« Reply #4 on: May 11th, 2020, 6:11pm » |
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Remember that there are a few choices that affect all bars on the Score > Page Mode Setup menu, in particular Force number of bars per line, Force number of lines per page, etc., which are particularly valuable when used to set the values to 0 (i.e., remove the End of Line and End of Page settings for all bars in the score). I suppose these commands could be modified to operate on a selection, as well as on the entire score.
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Re: Bar Menu Options Suggestion
« Reply #5 on: May 12th, 2020, 6:02pm » |
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Paul, these "options" are actually scripts which are expected to perform adjustments to reach the objective.
They will adjust sizing ans spacing values to achieve that objective, but as a once/off action. The indicated values do not remain part of the score.
If have tried that, with disappointing results.
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