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Problems selecting text
« on: Aug 11th, 2021, 4:22pm » |
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Has anyone else observed strange behavior when selecting text in ver. 9.9.4? I am finding that the highlighting and cursor position are at variance with what is actually selected.
For example, the cursor will appear several spaces to the right of the last character. It appears as though there is either a tab or several spaces at the end of the text, but typing a Backspace will erase the last character. When highlighting characters to delete or format, the highlighting is an inaccurate guide to which characters are actually selected. This problem has appeared so far in the Title, Composer, and Remarks windows when I tried to edit a piece.
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #1 on: Aug 11th, 2021, 9:13pm » |
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Hello Paul,
This hits (rings?) a bell. I have, a couple of months ago, discussed this kind of question with Olivier. While I think I rather mentioned it with lyrics, the editors are the same. But I think I had the cursor too far the other side. He explained a few elements, and it's possible he told me he had corrected something. Perhaps the corrections had side effects.
I'm just back of a one-week absence, I need to settle down and I'll search for these mails, and see if 994 changes something in the situation I signalled.
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #2 on: Aug 12th, 2021, 2:52am » |
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Merci, André. Le problème n'exsiste que dans les infos (titre, compositeur, etc.), pas dans les textes (lyrics), ni les objets libres, ni les objets textes.
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #3 on: Aug 12th, 2021, 7:29am » |
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Worth to mention. And i my submitted case, the problem lied with a parameter specific to lyrics.
Nevertheless, these editors are so similar that I think the check was useful, and action on one could have an effect (perhaps undesired) on another.
I cannot right away reproduce your problem. Could you attach a sample .myr, or send it to my mail address which is in my profile?
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #4 on: Aug 12th, 2021, 9:55am » |
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Pourtant si, le problème de sélection apparaissait dans la sélection des paroles.
Je l'ai signalé à Olivier qui a dû faire le nécessaire puisque dans la dernière version il n'y a plus de souci de sélection
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Partially solved in 994d
« Reply #5 on: Aug 20th, 2021, 11:51am » |
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New titles written in 994d can now be edited correctly.
(I never noticed before that only one character can be restored by Cntrl_Z)
However, if you want to edit a title that was written in a previous version of 994, then you will either have to completely re-write it (using 994d)
else edit the text in Notepad, then re-paste it in HA (994)
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #6 on: Aug 30th, 2021, 3:56pm » |
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Sorry not to get back to this thread before now.
I wonder if the problem has something to do with the fact that I am creating new scores from melody files that were created several years ago. I will have to try creating a score completely fresh, and see what happens.
I also notice that the feature that allows a saved text file to be inserted now deletes all previous text in the box, whereas it used to add the text from the file to the existing text. Not a great problem, so long as I remember to copy the existing text, so I can paste it back in.
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Andre, I saw your PM, and in case a file might still be useful, here is one.
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #8 on: Sep 20th, 2021, 7:35pm » |
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Just as an added observation, I notice that the problem is related to choosing anything but standard text. Mixing italic with roman, changing fonts, changing font sizes, all affect how the selection works.
I don't know if this was all fixed in 9.9.4e, because the installation files for Windows 10 do not work for me.
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The problem still exists in 994eb1
The chord names in the attachment use a mixture of sizes.
Try changing the C7 to C6 below, and Dm to Am
(Black triangle staff menu > Edit chord line as text)
Didier sent me a short video in which he changes it with little problem,
approaching from the left.
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #10 on: Mar 23rd, 2022, 3:56am » |
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The problem continues in 9.9.5c
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #11 on: Mar 23rd, 2022, 8:54am » |
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OK, I reproduced the problem, the "m" seems to be cause of this.
In fact, "m" and the "\G" are smaller (6 or 9pt) than the rest of the text (11pt).
Select all and set to 11pt solve the problem.
Send this file for example to Didier, as it demonstrates problem with changing font size.
Problem is not related to the editing zoom (bottom center).
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When I sent an example to Didier:
Sat, 02 Oct 2021 14:47:43:
This message has been sent to myriad-online.
Ce message a été envoyé à myriad-online.
If the text to be edited contains mixed sizes, it is very difficult to select the correct cursor position.
See attached examples
I received back a video showing that he had no problem with it!
It is like the Pariahan Ministry of Aggression (formerly Russian Ministry of Defence) saying LIES! 
What we need is a universally-encountered example of the problem.
Do any users NOT have a problem editing the attached file?
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #13 on: Mar 23rd, 2022, 4:38pm » |
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on Mar 23rd, 2022, 8:54am, Sylvain Machefert wrote:OK, I reproduced the problem, the "m" seems to be cause of this.
In fact, "m" and the "\G" are smaller (6 or 9pt) than the rest of the text (11pt).
Select all and set to 11pt solve the problem.
Send this file for example to Didier, as it demonstrates problem with changing font size.
Problem is not related to the editing zoom (bottom center).
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It's not just changes to font size that cause the problem, but any variation, such as italics, or a different font.
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Re: Problems selecting text
« Reply #14 on: Mar 23rd, 2022, 4:41pm » |
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on Mar 23rd, 2022, 4:16pm, Tony Deff wrote:When I sent an example to Didier:
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I received back a video showing that he had no problem with it!
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How are such videos made? I'd love to be able to show Didier exactly what I am encountering.
(I have another, unrelated problem where showing a video of what happens to me would be extremely helpful.)
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