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PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore   Screen_Shot_2021-12-30_at_10.27.59_AM.png
« on: Dec 30th, 2021, 4:28pm »
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Installing latest trial version on iMac-4K Big Sur.
 
Importing a valid pdf file(s) created from a score editor (Finale).
 
Using Musescore to import the .xml file(s).
 
Issues with the export to .xml.  
 
1. the first page exported and opened in Musescore.  the score created had multiple blank staffs for each measure. see attached pic.
 
2. Did not translate the instrument.  Should be drum set. Not sure what it actually choose for the instrument?
 
3. The trial version as I understand will only export 1 page of multiple pages?
 
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Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore  
« Reply #1 on: Dec 30th, 2021, 4:56pm »
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Hello,
 
I don't know about MusicXML export in PdfToMusic, but I reported to Myriad developpers problems with drum staves in Harmony Assistant export.
Should be linked.
 
I didn't test recently the export, but I didn't see work in progress on that point on the blog and in numerous mails exchanged with them.
 
You can submit your pdf file to Myriad team at info@myriad-online.com, for analysis, explaining your scenario : convert to MusicXML then open in MuseScore.
So they will determinate if PdfToMusic had problem to read the drum staff, and/or, export it.
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Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore   Capture_d__cran_2021-12-31___11.27.15.png
« Reply #2 on: Dec 31st, 2021, 11:33am »
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Hi,  
 
I use PDFtoMusic v174 and Harmony 995.  
With the provided PDF file I got this on first page :  
 
 
What PDFtoMusic version are you using ?  
Did you tried the MusicXML with other program than MuseScore ?  
 
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 31st, 2021, 3:03pm »
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Hello,
 
What you are showing is the  pdf opened in pdftomusic screen or the actual .xml file?
 
Attached is the version I'm using which is the latest i downloaded this week.
 
As you can see in the screenshot also, the pdf does import correctly with 4 pages.  Issue is when i export to .xml, does not display correctly
 
Musescore is the only score editor i use.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 31st, 2021, 3:17pm »
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Can you provide the PDF here so I can test on my side?
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Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore   B.B._King_-_Eyesight_To_The_Blind.pdf
« Reply #5 on: Dec 31st, 2021, 5:34pm »
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Pdf used is attached
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Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore  
« Reply #6 on: Jan 1st, 2022, 11:10am »
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First thing, I don't see "drum" clef, so PdfToMusic consider it as ą G clef...
I didn't see how to fix this in PdfToMusic
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 1st, 2022, 11:11am »
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on Jan 1st, 2022, 11:10am, Sylvain Machefert wrote:
First thing, I don't see "drum" clef, so PdfToMusic consider it as ą G clef...
I didn't see how to fix this in PdfToMusic

 
 
Graphically it's OK, but it plays piano notes, no drums, and it won't export it as drum staff
 
(tried with PdfToMusicPro last version Windows 10 x64)
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Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore  
« Reply #8 on: Jan 2nd, 2022, 1:00am »
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on Jan 1st, 2022, 11:10am, Sylvain Machefert wrote:
First thing, I don't see "drum" clef, so PdfToMusic consider it as ą G clef...
I didn't see how to fix this in PdfToMusic

 Oh shoot daah..  didnt notice the clef missing.
 
All the pdfs they have are missing.
 
But not an issue.  I can just copy and paste into a new drum score .
 
Do you get a clean output with not all the empty measures  i indicated?
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Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore  
« Reply #9 on: Jan 2nd, 2022, 1:05am »
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on Jan 1st, 2022, 11:11am, Sylvain Machefert wrote:

 
 
Graphically it's OK, but it plays piano notes, no drums, and it won't export it as drum staff
 
(tried with PdfToMusicPro last version Windows 10 x64)

 
 
Is the trial version the same as a purchased version?
 
I’ll try the windows trial and see if results are different
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 2nd, 2022, 9:48am »
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Yes, both versions are the same.
When you purchase, you don't need to download a new setup, all executables files stay the same.
 
PdfToMusic is the same for all OSes.
 
 
If I just open the pdf and export to musicXml, it says there are 1664 bars.
 
So here is a first things I'm doing. Not sure of the result yet, see in next replies.
 
  • Open the correction menu
  • disable (untick) things that there are not present in your score (lyrics, group names...)
  • enable (tick) things that are present on your score (tempi, dynamics, tuplets...)
  • and last click on "staves and systems" in the first part of the menu.
     
    You'll then see systems S1, S2, S3... and staves called A, B, C.. meaning that PdfToMusic didn't recognized all staves are the same.
    For each staff not labelled "A", click the blue triangle, select "A" in the popup menu.
     
    To be continued...
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    Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore  
    « Reply #11 on: Jan 2nd, 2022, 9:58am »
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    Then, when I export as MusicXML, it says there is only one staff of 64 bars, which looks pretty good
     
    I opened the .xml in Harmony Assistant and then I can change the staff type from a "supposed" G clef staff to drum staff.
     
    It sounds 95% correct.
     
    Note that there are some "drumeo" watermarks that appears in diagonal of each page.
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    Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore  
    « Reply #12 on: Jan 3rd, 2022, 2:05am »
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    on Jan 2nd, 2022, 9:58am, Sylvain Machefert wrote:
    Then, when I export as MusicXML, it says there is only one staff of 64 bars, which looks pretty good
     
    I opened the .xml in Harmony Assistant and then I can change the staff type from a "supposed" G clef staff to drum staff.
     
    It sounds 95% correct.
     
    Note that there are some "drumeo" watermarks that appears in diagonal of each page.

     
     
    That's promising.
     
    I downloaded the trial version for windows.
     
    Problem is exporting to xml is disabled.  Why?  the macos version is not disabled even though it doesn't work.
     
    Is it possible to forward the xml file so I can verify that the file will open in MuseScore?
     
    Before i purchase the Pro version, don't want to spend $49 and ends up exports to xml does not work with MuseScore.
     
    thankx for your help !!
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    Re: PDFtoMusic trial version issues with Musescore   B.B._King_-_Eyesight_To_The_Blind.xml.zip
    « Reply #13 on: Jan 3rd, 2022, 11:07am »
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    "it doesn't work" ?
    - it does nothing like if it was disabled ?
    - or it's the problem you described (lot of empty bars and so on...) ?
     
    Did you understood what I did about options and staves?
     
    Here is the .xml in a zip file.
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    « Reply #14 on: Jan 4th, 2022, 12:12am »
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    Yes i do .
     
    I will test this tonight.
     
    That very much for the xml file.  
     
    Im crossing  my fingers to get positive results do i can purchase the Pro version
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